The Roper Family in Hoxne, Suffolk, England

L. David Roper
roperld@vt.edu
http://arts.bev.net/roperldavid

This is web page http://www.roperld.com/RoperHoxne.htm.
Web page about Hoxne, Suffolk, England

A Roper family lived in Hoxne, Suffolk, England from about 1500 to 1750 and possibly earlier.

Known branches of the Hoxne Roper family

The above statements are known to be true by means of extensive genealogy work done by Peter James Roper of Great Yarmouth and L. David Roper of Virginia and by Y-chromosome testing of many English and United States Roper males.

The first 11 generations of known descendants of the earliest-known Hoxne Roper b c1475. Different colors are used for the Suffolk and Norfolk places (Hoxne, Tibenham, New Buckenham, Bressingham, Eye and Thornham Magna). No information is known about the connection of the Virginia branch to the other branches.

Roper graves at Hoxne St. Peter and Paul Church
Red squares mark the eight known Roper graves.

The front graves are near to the main door of the church and date to the early 1700s. Since the data show that this Roper family was in Hoxne from the 1500s or earlier, I suspect that those graves are on top of the graves of earlier Roper ancestors. A Samuel Roper (b c1742 d 1802) is buried under the floor near the altar of the church with his wife’s family (Leman).

Genetics of the Hoxne Roper family

In the Roper male-lines Y-chromosome project, this Hoxne Roper family is known as the RoperY1 or RY1 family.

The following table shows the relative mutations of the RoperY1 males whose 67 Y-chromosome markers have been measured:

Relative Mutations
LDR
RSR
NJR
RGR
MLR
APR
RGR3
PJR
AGGR
JDR
DR
CFER
LDR
0
RSR
1
0
NJR
1
0
0
RGR
3
2
2
0
MLR
3
2
2
2
0
APR
4
3
3
5
5
0
RGR3
3
2
2
4
4
5
0
PJR
4
3
3
5
5
6
5
0
AGGR
8
7
7
9
9
8
9
8
0
JDR
2
1
1
3
3
4
1
4
8
0
DR
2
1
1
3
3
4
3
4
8
2
0
CFER
3
2
2
4
4
5
4
3
9
3
3
0

The following graph shows the most probable genetic connections of the RoperY1 males whose 67 Y-chromosome markers have been measured:


(Prefixes: -n or +n = direction and number of mutations)

The ones not labeled “England” or “Massachusetts” have been assumed to be from colonial Virginia Ropers in the past.

AGGR (England) is the one whose mutations of the 67 markers relative to the common ancestor of all twelve of the family members are most different than all the others. It is possible that he is not even "related" to the other eleven, i.e., not in the RY1 family.

The marker names and direction/amount of mutations of the markers that have mutations relative to most of the twelve RY1 members that have been measured for 67 markers are:

AGGR: 449+2, 464d-1, 413a-2, 534-1
APR: 456+1, 534-1, 578-1
PJR: 576-1, CDYb-1
CFER: 392+1, 576-1
DR: 442-1
NJR: none (defines "most")
RSR: none (defines "most")
LDR: 406S1+1

Only the England Ropers, Massachusetts Ropers, RSR & LDR are listed here.

Note that the CFER (MA) branch appears to not have mutated much since leaving England, whereas the DR & NJR (MA) branch has mutated more. It appears that the LDR (me) and RSR branches might have migrated south (to VA/NC & VA/KY, respectively) from MA, instead of coming to colonial Virginia directly from England c1600s.

Good genealogical data for the Massachusetts branch show that CFER & DR are 6th cousins with common ancestor Ephraim Roper III (b 1716 MA) and that CFER & NJR are 7th cousins with common ancestor Ephraim Roper Jr (b c1687 MA), father of Ephraim Roper III. So, the extra mutation for DR & NJR must have occurred in a generation after Ephraim Roper Jr.

Since LDR (me) and RSR are genetically close to DR and NJR, it is likely that the ancestry of LDR and of RSR are in the branch of descendants of Ephraim Roper III.

12-Mar-2009